Wednesday, August 25, 2010

Chapter 16

OK, so get ready, we will be reading "The Rocking Horse Winner"!

I think times have changed quite a bit from the early nineteen hundreds. there are no more twin beds and no more trains and tunnels. If an author or a movie director want to create a sex scene today, they pretty much just do it.What do you think about that? Are those kinds of scenes best left to the imagination (curtains blowing, waves crashing...) Were TV and movies better off when the characters had twin beds? Didn't that force the viewer/reader to use his/her imagination? Didn't we have to put more thought into what we were watching/reading? Are we better off now--when there is no way you could read most novels at the breakfast table with the whole family? What do you think?

27 comments:

  1. The times have changed and so have our books and movies. When people in the future look back and watch the movies we have today, I think they should see it how it actually is. Unfortunately, with the way things are now, in the future they might become very inappropriate and things will have to be changed.

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  2. What we have now was probably blasphemy in the nineteen hundreds. Our thoughts on sex is becoming more liberal each year. There are even very detailed sex scenes in books that are crazed by young and hyper tweens.....cough* Twilight *cough. Its only logical that if we keep exposing sex younger and younger generations each year that things are going to change, and definitely no for the better. The author doesn't let us use our imagination anymore, they put in every little detail. This isn't good because if we don't use our imagination (even for this subject) we don't get creative anymore.

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  3. We're defiantly living in different times. The acceptance for certain content in T.V. shows, movies, and books have all changed. It's pretty much up to the director or author on what can and can't go into the book. it's up to us to decide what's appropriate and what's not.

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  4. Times have defiantly changed. I think the change is causing our generation to become smarter. They are not just telling us exactly what we want to know; they are making us think about it. And for the whole sex scene idea, I think it is logical. When they put sex scenes in movies or books, they are usually for a reader that is mature enough to handle it. If not, they should not be reading or watching it.

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  5. It is obvious to see that times have changed. I love old movies and I like the fact that they allowed you to use your imagination. I think being able to think things through yourself is great, I just believe that today's films and novels fit our society. With the exception that young children shouldn't be allowed to watch or listen to somethings. Most movie ratings today are set to a mature enough audience to handle what is put into literature or the TV screen.

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  6. I don't really think I have ever seen an old movie, or a read a book that the author created a sexual scene by using rolling hills, or a bowl that some guys puts his keys in. Now a days the author just puts it out there, and I think that should change a little. You should be forced to use your imagination more, I'm not saying couples need to go back to twin beds because that will never happen in my mind, but not every little detail needs to be there. Usually readers have a pretty good idea what's going on with very little detail.

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  7. Until i read this chapter i had never really thought about sex scenes being represented by rolling hills or bowls with keys. I have seen several old movies and most of the time you can pick up on what the director is trying to say if u see two people kissing and then it changes to a crashing waves or blowing curtains. Personally i like it better when the author/director leaves it up to the reader's imagination to figure it out.

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  8. I totally agree with everyone when they are saying that times have definitely changed from how they used to be. Authors and directors are practically teaching everyone not to use your imagination, and to just put it all out there. Younger generations than us even are being exposed to things way too quickly, and it's causing them to grow up too fast. Kids need to be kids, and all the sex scenes in books and movies should be left to the more mature audiences. Let us all use our imagination, without all of the tiniest details.

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  9. It has definitely become more acceptable to put more sex scenes in movies now a days. I don't think its necessary to show more and more as the years go on because most the time the viewer knows what is going on or could at least guess. In literature, describing the sex scene might be a little more acceptable than putting it in a movie where you actually see it.

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  10. I agree that times have changed. Older books and movies didn't really force you to use your imagination to begin with though because you pretty much know when its going to happen. The only difference is now they actually tell every detail and show every detail. I do agree that it is suppose to be for mature people that can handle it, but of course you can't really stop the kids that read it or watch the stuff and its causing them to grow up too soon as Kayla said. It's obvious when a couple is going to have sex. Theres not really any using your imagination to it unless you really want to imagine every detail that happened which is a little weird. But I agree that it shouldn't just be thrown out there with every little detail like it is now because like alot of others have said, its only going to get worse.

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  11. Today sex scenes are put into books and are "very" detailed. Though it is a good thing that the author is trying to get straight to the point, it does kind of take out the fun of figuring out what the characters are wanting and who they are wanting. In a way it says that today's authors are either to lazy or not as creative as those back then.

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  12. You can see a huge change in books throughout the times. In the 19th century the times were very different, and it would be very sinful for putting sex scenes in books or movies. But with the change of time there is also a change in the way books are written. Now the novels and books are very blunt, they go straight to the facts. Leaving no imagination to the readers, just facts. I dont think reading novels at the dinner table is acceptable because of the change in writing styles. Cussing is seen more in books than ever before. The bad part is that with time, books change so no telling what books will be like in the next 20 years.

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  13. Times have changed a lot and I'm not sure if back then scenes were better not showing the sexuality and the intensity of how now a day sex scenes are portrayed. Personally I don't see it a problem with either way but I kind of think that teenagers or kids coming about to that stage shouldn't use their imagination as to what really happens. I think its better to be blunt. The only major bad thing or set back to times like now is that books and movies now are all the same like all about sex or about relationship problems.

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  14. I think that novels/movies have definitely changed from the 1900's. I think now people are more open to talk about things like sex. So some stories are straight forward about what is happening, including all the details. I personally think that doing that makes the story more interesting and intriguing. But at the same time I like stories that leave things to your imagination. You get to decide the details, what happens and what doesn't happens.

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  15. I agree with Logan on the fact that we as a society are exposing sex to younger generations with each coming year. I do think that the way we make movies now may make movies or books more, spicy/thrilling etc. but i think that the way movies or books were made in the old days did leave more to our imagination.

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  16. Times have definitely changed since the early nineteen hundreds. The society is more open with topics such a sex, get over it people now days talk about sex. It has become accepted. But I agree with Rebecca, I like your thinking, that the stories used to leave things to your imagination and you get to decide the detail and what happens happens, and what doesn't, doesn't. I personally like thinking about how things used to be.

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  17. Todays thoughts of sex are completely different than they were in the nineteen hundreds. Everybody now is doing things that people in the nineteenth century would be disowned by their families. So why would it be wrong for an author or a screen write to put things like this into their works? Material like this sells better than having twin beds and no sex.

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  18. Yes times have changed. is it appropriate No not really. but thast why moves are pg,pg-13, R, and x. video games are EVERYONE TEEN AND MATURE. you dont just randomly see boobies on tv. but your chance are increased if you watch an R film vs PG. society is changed frm the 1900s cilivilistvon. is a growing thing and its gotn raw and darker. its expected now days

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  19. As the times change, it seems our morales change also. Back in the early nineteen hundreds we would never see anything close to a sex scene. But as times progress we become more lustful and we want more knowledge about sex. But as i think what is going to happen is we are going to keep increasing our knowledge until sex is just another topic, close to what it is now. Which is why i think humanity is in trouble unless we can start changing our ways now.

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  20. I think the sex scenes are better when they are not obvious stated. I think it makes it more romantic than just saying we are having sex. Today people less moral, they aren't modest. They really don't care if you know about your sex life. I think in modern day books it should be less open but it doesn't have to be as strict as twin beds.

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  21. I think that it'd be better if they just left it to imagination, the things kids see these days in almost everything is absurd. I would never wanting my kids knowing and seeing the things that most do today, like a 12 year old having sex that's crazy to me and completely unacceptable, but it's happened. I think that people now are just desensitized to it and could care less what they put in things even if it means a child seeing it which disgusts me. I don't really have anything cause i've never seen twin beds in a movie so idk about that. I think we're worse off now, my parents are always saying what happened to good clean family movies? Now you can hardly find one, yes there are some but most movies and modern writings include some sort of sexual situation and/or questionable theme. My brother alone knows more about sex and other bad things at 12 than I did at 15, i find that ridiculous.

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  22. Times have definitely changed since the beginning of the nineteenth century. I like movies better when they hint at sexual relations between characters rather than describe every small detail. I would like use my imagination rather than have it spelled out. Most people want their relationships to be private, so reading/seeing someone's "private life" in books/movies/T.V shows is a little awkward to me.

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  23. Times have changed, no doubt at all. We are a lot more blunt with our younger generations I think. A long time ago, people were very modest and kept things to themselves. Now a days anything goes, people discuss whatever whenever wherever they want to. I myself would like to be left wandering, it makes you think more and you can put your own little twist to what was left unknown.

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  24. I personally think this is a touchy subject. Obviously, going into more graphic detail about a sex scene would be more suitable for adult eyes than the eyes of a younger child. I think it's important for adults to monitor what their children read (and watch, in some cases), but if you're old enough, I don't see a major problem. I think it's all about personal preference. Some people are in to that kind of stuff, and who are we to judge? I do think it's easy for filmmakers to get carried away. An implied scene saves time, which can be spent on actual PLOT-which is becoming rare these days. I've read several books from authors such as Stephen King, and they will put a sex scene in the book. It's never unnecessarily drawn out, and it always contributes to the plot, though I won't deny that it was explicit. I would like to point out that there are several instances of sex in the Bible where the detail is somewhat explicit, and it's been around for quite a long time.

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  25. everything has changed especially in movies. directors and authors always have to input sex in everything. i think they should just leave it to our imagination. it is not a good example for the little kids and it is pathetic that people go to see that

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  26. I believe that this is a shame and proof of the decline of our society. If it is now acceptable to put sex into movies, then we have most certainly have finally achieved in our quest of eliminating all morals and decency from our society. It has been cut off, shriveled, and died before our very eyes. And the worst part is, we let it. We allowed our moralities to be stripped from us and attempt nothing to stop it. This is an atrocity. I believe it is better for those scenes to be left to the imagination. It should not be directly put into movies. I believe movies were better without sex. It is not needed and completely repulsive. I believe it is better for people to actually think while they watch a movie. I know. Don't faint. I am actually saying people should think. I am completely losing my mind. Absolutely crazy. People, think. Ha! Sorry. I was kinda going off. But, yeah. Feel pretty passionate about how awful it is.

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  27. In a way, I'm glad entertainment's changed to the more sexual. It leaves the classics the classics. Nothing can compare. It leaves very high standards for anyone to even try to. (I also feel like most writers today basically suck, can't write and wouldn't be successful in the least if they couldn't play on the sexual side of our society, poor sods.) The rape scene in The Lovely Bones was one of the worst things I've ever had to read. Don't get me wrong, it was amazing. She herself is a rape victim, and the scene was hard for me to read. I like books like that though. I like when they make you feel. When an author can use words to disgust you. I personally like how books have evolved. That this is how we'll be remembered, as the mad sexual society, not so much. It's what our lit will likely be remembered as. It has its pros and cons. At the same time, I can be classic and say, "Hey, I like the idea of sex and passion and all belonging in life, to you and whoever, vs. Katherine and Damon." (The Vampire Diaries) At the same time, I have rarely seen a more beautiful man than Damon Salvatore/Ian Somerhalder and cannot force myself to lie and be opposed to his shirtless body. Sex is a part of society though. We invoke all parts of society into our books, movies, and tv shows. We've lost the proper/easily embarrassed nature which defined the Victorians in the 1800s. Granted, we as Americans are a lot more pious than the English still through tv, movies and books. It's nothing to what it use to be. Honestly, I'm not opposed to it nor for it. It is. I'll accept it and study it. I do like being curious though. So when movies imply, sex was had but don't explicitly show you how and what ways? I'm down. Like said, I like being curious. I like my imagination. It gets to wonder if something did or didn't happen. All that. Sweet by me.

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